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Forum: Euroleague - results
2011-01-15 00:13:34 Attila Demján (ycattila)
RE: break in match
# 5298
I thought I am gonna write some lines about the current situation...

First of all, I am really sad and disappointed about the 3rd round. Ridiculous accusement of cheating and unfinished game between 2 title claimer teams. These are not the reasons why we all play Euroleague. Our primary vision should be to be fair, play gomoku and enjoy the game, the competition. We are not playing for thousands of $s. Everyone knows who is a good player, who isnt, none of us needs to cheat to misguide anyone else abour our true skills. Why this all is happening?

1st issue: The accusement of fire2fire. I think this issue is going to be finished soon as the commitee will decide. I already wrote my comments about it, no need to add anything.

2nd issue: I didn't want to comment it due several reasons. It is just so simply overhyped and "boring". I mean there are rules, those are set for such occassions. DW (supposed to be the winning team) is very unlucky (can't find a better word) now who can't do much, and LXO is probably against fair play and same time against our international community, but still they are 100% correct, they are behaving accurately according to the set rules! This is a contradiction, isn't it?

If I would be the judge here, I would push LXO to agree to replay the match (starting from 0-0!), but if they wouldn't wish to do it, I would accept it too. As I said, unfortunately DW can not do anything but hope for LXO's rematch accept. I hope in case of tie DW will continue to struggle in EL and move on and LXO will maybe learn something from this situation concerning fair play.

This situation just shows us that something is wrong in Euroleague's rule system, or - better to say - not as good as possible.

If we suppose that D&W would win this match 10 out of 10 times, we would just steal 0,5 pts from them and add 0,5 pts for LXO, and this would be very unfair against other competiting teams and DW of course.
But I don't think that D&W would win 10 times out of 10, maybe just 6 or 7, doesn't matter in fact. Obviously, a better example would be if team nr1 would play with team nr30 and same stuff would happen. Everyone would feel the draw as a mistaken decision, because team nr1 will NEVER lose to team nr30. That should tell my opinion about it.

So what I say is that making this game draw is not fair and is against everyone else but one team.
Since making a rematch has to be approved by both teams, and it is very complicated to replay it in the next round or anytime, a quick idea came to my mind...

This issue can't be solved correctly enough in Swiss system. That is the biggest defect of Euroleague in my opinion, the system we play in.

I suggest and I will probably suggest later with more details to play in ROUND ROBIN system from the coming season.
Imagine, there would be like A, B and C leagues, each would contain 6-10 teams and all teams should play against all others, only in the same group of course.
What we would miss then, is the chance that strong teams could not play with weak ones, and that's all! But we would not have such EL destroying conflicts and hard discussions about rules, luck and fair play. Moreover the competition would be more effective, interesting and tense and no result would be based on the pairing of 1st round and stuff like that. Even if the server crashes, our deadlines would let us easily repeat anything. In addition, 3 teams could be the champion by the end of a season (supposing we have 3 leagues). The issue of newly joining teams could be also easily solveable, such as the change of stable teams between the leagues.
(More details and concrete ideas about new playing system will be coming soon by me if I find it worthy)

I ask everyone to think about this suggestion instead of attacking each other and let's discuss it all together in the near future. Because if we would agree, we should decide the system details as soon as possible.

Best wishes,

Attila
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