| 2017-02-12 23:28:04 • Marek Gorzecki (alicecooperpl) | |
RE: Admin date issue | # 7038 |
| You probably not made an effort to examine too close
for example http://euroleague.cz/php/matchdate.php?pai=1303 YES we prefer admin BUT i ask team if they can play in date proposed by opponent and i LET system accept proposition (NOT admin) (as my mates agreed) so please exclude me and my team from such "cynicly" "violence" becouse it is NOT TRUE please next time be more accurate Mark | |
| 2017-02-12 23:26:27 • Michał Żukowski (zukolepl) | |
RE: Admin date issue | # 7037 |
| Gelo, nice joking.
Zukole PS http://euroleague.cz/php/matchdate.php?pai=1303 (this round) was played today. | |
| 2017-02-10 10:55:45 • Ilya Katsev (bromozel) | |
RE: Дата матча "WayToTheSun" - "Humans-2015" | # 7036 |
| I confirm | |
| 2017-02-10 10:27:47 • Alexey Mikhaylov (off_minor) | |
Дата матча "WayToTheSun" - "Humans-2015" | # 7035 |
| Дата проведения матча 4-го тура "WayToTheSun" - "Humans-2015" согласована капитанами обеих команд - суббота, 11 февраля. Начало матча в 18.00 по Пражскому времени (20.00 по Московскому).
--- Date of a match of the 4th tour "WayToTheSun" - "Humans-2015" is agreed by captains of both teams - Saturday, February 11. The beginning of a match at 18:00 on the Prague time (20.00 on Moscow). | |
| 2017-02-09 22:45:58 • Oleg Bulatowsky (logelo0one) | |
RE: Admin date issue | # 7034 |
| Dear Tomo,
Thank you for your feedback. My message was solely based upon the message exchange which is available online. I will ask Alex about the exact circumstances of your conversation. Back to the current state of affairs: you have replied as the captain of the Slovenian Dragons. What would you reply as a member of the Committee? | |
| 2017-02-09 18:59:23 • Tomo Dernovšek (jezek_si) | |
RE: Admin date issue | # 7033 |
| I reply as the captain of SD and not as a member of the Committee.
Oleg, if you dont know all the facts, it would be better to be quite. I remember that we agreed to play on (the last?) Saturday, but noone from your team came. You could easily win with 3 players only, couldnt you? Lamaza obviously forgot to inform you about agreed date or changed it. It was his mistake, sorry. When the time was over, I informed the other member of the Committee, Angst, who was on-line and played their match. He published the news on the Polish form. (You can check there if this was last Saturday or not.) After w.o., I think, but I am not sure, that Lamaza wanted to play on another (admin) date. If he really asked me, I am sure, that I tried to inform my teammates, but we wouldnt have 4 players. We had problems to have 4 players all the season. Number of our players in each round: 4, 3, 5, 4, 3, bye, 4, +- (Lords), 1 (-+). And Lords: 5, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 4, -+ (SD), 5. Who really had problems to play with 4 players than? Btw, we played in the season 2013/14 as well. I have dialogue with Lamaza on FB, when we tried to find a good day. If you want, I can publish it, that you can see if SD really tried to avoid your proposal or not. Do you still think, that SD smelt the blood? I expect your apology. | |
| 2017-02-08 13:38:53 • Oleg Bulatowsky (logelo0one) | |
Admin date issue | # 7032 |
| Dear Committee,
Dear All, I believe it is time to raise the question of the admin date, the issue invented as a panacea for squabbles that have often occurred over the course of date & time arrangements in the EL. It is good indeed to have an effective tool for reducing opposite opinions and either side’s stubbornness to a common denominator, and the Committee came up with this regulation some time ago. However, we can see that this mechanism, originally meant for the common good, is being cynically misused and has now turned into a tool of violence (sometimes being referred to as “date common to all”): http://euroleague.cz/php/matchdate.php?pai=1294 (this season) http://euroleague.cz/php/matchdate.php?pai=1303 (this round) http://euroleague.cz/php/matchdate.php?pai=1302 (this round) http://euroleague.cz/php/matchdate.php?pai=1254 (last season) In the cited instances, one team looks for options, whereas the other one, sensing the smell of blood (as it becomes clear that the opponents can’t play on the admin date & time), enforces the right to get a free point no matter the cost. A good example would be our round 8 story with the Slovenian Dragons in the season of 2014/2015 (http://euroleague.cz/php/matchdate.php?pai=1184) when all excuses were used to squeeze a point of the situation, which could not otherwise be earned in play. Fortunately, that enforced walkover of ours did not affect the final table standings. However, 2 months before that, Demons and Wizards enforced their right to use the admin date against us (http://euroleague.cz/php/matchdate.php?pai=1148), as they had known our captain couldn’t play and the rest was off-shape and had to cancel activities previously planned, and earned the point that decided the whole season. Now, a similar situation is going on: Dasha and Bears disagree to step off the admin date & time (19.02.2016, 19:00 CET), as they are uneager to cooperate. It has been communicated to them that two (loadif, lovage) out of our first four cannot play because of work shifts, another one (lozawrat) is traveling on the plane, and the rest has not been active for many months. Furthermore, another starting four player (lolamaza) will be on a duty trip to Georgia, 3 hours East from the CET. Still, our colleagues strangle the rule over our necks mentioning “preparations” as an excuse for using the evening time, although we have come up with quite a few date & time offers, including the old admin date at 10:00 CET on the 19th. The fact is that we just can’t play if the match starts after 14:00 on the 19th––not because of our stubbornness or wish to cut the opponents’ time to prepare (5 hours cut off 3 weeks––what a huge difference!), but because of objective reasons that can be confirmed with official documents upon request of the Committee. Gentlemen, it is a matter work, something objective that people have to do to make their bread and butter and pay the flat. At stake is one of the matches that will decide the whole season, and we would like to ask the Committee to review this situation and help us find a solution that will prevent the misuse of the EL rules and provide for the decision of the season in play, not in negotiation boxes of the site. Sincerely yours, Oleg Bulatowsky on behalf of the Lords of XO | |
| 2017-01-13 22:20:15 • Alexey Lebedev (wkstealth) | |
RE: Dark Team - Wake; 15.01.2017, 19:00 | # 7025 |
| Yes, we'll play at 19-00 CET on Sunday, 15th | |
| 2017-01-13 22:19:07 • Piotr Małowiejski (dt_angst) | |
Dark Team - Wake; 15.01.2017, 19:00 | # 7024 |
| Hello!
We agreed with Wake's captain to play on Sunday, 15.01., at 19:00 Warsaw time. Due to 3-days rule we can't confirm appropriate date in match date section. Kind regards, Angst | |
| 2017-01-02 22:17:16 • Ilya Muratov (wk_bkmz) | |
RE: WayToTheSun - Dasha and bears | # 7021 |
| confirm | |
| 2017-01-02 20:08:03 • Ilya Katsev (bromozel) | |
WayToTheSun - Dasha and bears | # 7020 |
| We decide to play our match at January 5, 19:00 Prague time (21:00 Moscow time) | |
| 2016-04-02 20:25:14 • Igor Eged (ancientdragon) | |
Demons and Wizards : Outsiders | # 7006 |
| Both teams agreed to play at 15:00 tomorrow on 03.04.2016.
I also agree to play 3 vs 3 if the opponents ask us before the match. Thank you. I am also suggesting in the committee that committee should officially publish the list of team admin times at the start of the season and after each change. | |
| 2016-03-28 18:41:44 • Jan Purkrábek (czpaypurkys) | |
Czech payback games | # 7004 |
| Our teams are going to play 31. 3. at 20:30. | |
| 2016-03-05 16:48:17 • Igor Eged (ancientdragon) | |
RE: Outsiders - Dark Team 06.03.; 11:00 | # 7002 |
| I confirm, thanks. | |
| 2016-03-05 16:47:30 • Piotr Małowiejski (dt_angst) | |
RE: Outsiders - Dark Team 06.03.; 11:00 | # 7001 |
| OK, finally we agreed to play tomorrow at 12:30!
Best regards, Angst | |
| 2016-03-03 21:41:11 • Igor Eged (ancientdragon) | |
RE: Outsiders - Dark Team 06.03.; 11:00 | # 7000 |
| Yes, I confirm. | |
| 2016-03-03 21:39 • Piotr Małowiejski (dt_angst) | |
Outsiders - Dark Team 06.03.; 11:00 | # 6999 |
| Dear All,
We agreed to play our match on Sunday, 2016-03-06, at 11:00 (instead of 15:00). Kind regards, Angst | |
| 2016-02-18 20:46:22 • Alexander Miroshnichenko (fudjin) | |
RE: Last Frontier vs Get Rekt | # 6997 |
| Yes. I confirm. | |
| 2016-02-18 20:44:45 • Łukasz Majksner (scammer) | |
Last Frontier vs Get Rekt | # 6996 |
| We will play our match this Sunday 21.02.2016 18:00 CET. | |
| 2016-01-22 14:43:02 • Alex Lisyutin (bugry75) | |
RE: Wake-Thunderstorm | # 6988 |
| ok | |
| 2016-01-22 14:41:28 • Alexey Lebedev (wkstealth) | |
Wake-Thunderstorm | # 6987 |
| We agreed to play 2016-01-24 at 17-00 CET | |
| 2015-12-27 17:48:57 • Alex Popiel (lolamaza) | |
match date | # 6986 |
| I confirm. | |
| 2015-12-27 17:43:49 • Ilya Katsev (bromozel) | |
The Lords of XO - WayToTheSun | # 6985 |
| Hello! we agreed to play our game tomorrow at 20:15 CET | |
| 2015-12-19 09:08:15 • Alexey Mikhaylov (off_minor) | |
Humans-2015 - Last Frontier | # 6983 |
| Hello. Our team accept this date of a match: 19.12.2015 at 20:00 CET (or 22:00 Moscow time). | |
| 2015-12-18 21:06:50 • Alexander Miroshnichenko (fudjin) | |
Last Frontier - Humans-2015 | # 6982 |
| Hello, sorry, but we didn't manage to agree the date on the site in time. Our game will be tomorrow(19.12.2015) at 20:00 CET or 22:00 Moscow time.
Fudjin | |
| 2015-11-21 14:39:34 • Igor Eged (ancientdragon) | |
The Lords of XO : Outsiders | # 6980 |
| We agreed to play 22.11, 21:00 (in EL messages and then facebook).
In case of 3 players there is agreement to play 3 vs 3. | |
| 2015-05-18 14:27:13 • Jan Purkrábek (czpaypurkys) | |
czech payback vs. Polar | # 6973 |
| match date:today at 19:00, dobrocin. | |
| 2015-05-17 17:39:50 • Jan Purkrábek (czpaypurkys) | |
czech payback vs. Polar | # 6972 |
| We are going to play our match tomorrow evening...match time is still under discussion. | |
| 2015-04-27 20:31:14 • Michał Żukowski (zukolepl) | |
RE: Outsiders - Demons and Wizards | # 6968 |
| 10,5 without walkovers. It's correct and many times were a identical situations ;) | |
| 2015-04-27 20:23:40 • Ilya Katsev (bromozel) | |
RE: Outsiders - Demons and Wizards | # 6967 |
| So you really played 4 rounds, not 3? Anyway it is better to change the result because now it is definitely wrong (10,5 points and 1:0 as the result of the match) | |