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2009-12-24 17:43:21 Andrey Litvinenko (np_popovich)
join the player
# 4417
Hello!

I would like to join SKiLL90 to my team, but i can't is it possible?

Thanks
2009-12-24 01:41:07 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
Merry Christmas
# 4416
Merry Christmas for all :)
2009-12-23 12:46:30 Георги Георгиев (gdggomoku)
RE: 3vs3 mistake
# 4414
Bravo
2009-12-22 14:04:49 Marko Pellikka (pellikka)
RE: 3vs3 mistake
# 4411
I don't think that the meaning of the fair play can be generalized by referring strictly to the rules.

First I'd like to remind that I'm not trying to change what already happened. I just want to bring some ideas that could be taken into consideration when the rules for the future (not this season) are being revised.

It is my personal opinion, that offering a chance for opponent to play 3 vs 3 is an act of fair play towards opponent team. I also believe that I'm not the only one with this opinion.

I agree, that having only 3 players available for a match is worth 13PP.

I don't agree that a team having 4 players present during all the match, but still chose to give a chance for opponent by playing 3 vs 3 would get also 13PP. That's too much.

But as Tomo said, defining different special scenarios for rules is problematic. And each special scenario may result having other complications that can't be easily foreseen. One problem is that you can't say if the fourth player is really available to play although he would be online.

-marko
2009-12-22 00:07:09 Vlad Nipoti (czpaybtc)
RE: 3vs3 mistake
# 4410
To Marko:

Hi,

It has nothing to do with fair play. Teams are supposed to come as team in 4 players. If they dont, its only their problems or their captain. The aim of that rule ( pp for playing in 3) is to make teams come in at least 4 players, as Ales told me long time ago. In my opinion, it is absolutely fair to play 4x3.

Best Regards,

B.
2009-12-20 13:13:22 Tomo Dernovšek (jezek_si)
RE: 3vs3 mistake
# 4400
I understand your situation, but we (Committee) have to follow the rules. At this moment I think it would be problematic if we define different pp for different causes of nonplayed games because every time can someone want to get less pp for his special cause. We ll talk about your idea anyway.

I d like to tell you, that fair play is incuded in the rule 16: »If a team and all its players don't get any pp in the next 3 real rounds (not walkover or 'bye'), their penalty points will reduce for 2 penalty points for every next round.«
2009-12-18 08:59:34 Marko Pellikka (pellikka)
RE: 3vs3 mistake
# 4387
Hi, I understand by the rules that my team got 13 PP. However I'd like that for future or for next season you consider changing rules so, that for fair play intentions (for example giving a chance for opponent to play 3 vs 3), will not result in so many PP. Comparing the PP result of this caused by good intentions is clearly not in line with other penalties.

Br, Marko
2009-12-04 22:13:06 Michał Wileczek (krvilumisiek)
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# 4319
i accepted but there is nothing about remember it :] so im accept results of my behavior so np
2009-12-04 20:34:47 Juraj Ďuračka (outpanz)
RE: .
# 4318
Sorry Michał, but if you want to play in Euroleague, one of the conditions is to read the rules. To play in EL = to accept its rules. Otherwise you shouldn't do that. So now you shouldn't complain and gripe at rules.

Me and my teammates were prepared for the match on the agreed date and we have to look for a new date. OK, perhaps we'll find some new because we want to play but it's a little annoyance for us now.

Hope the match itself will better than this.
2009-12-04 18:44:12 Michał Wileczek (krvilumisiek)
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# 4317
ok.

shit rule.
2009-12-04 15:49:30 Igor Eged (ancientdragon)
RE: Outsiders : Klub Rzeszow
# 4316
To be more specific, it happened because of this:

6.2.2. If no team creates an offer in first seven days of the round, then the first offer created from 8th day (from monday at 00:01) is automatically accepted.

And if you don't agree, it would be preferred if you could respond within 3 days from my offer ;)
2009-12-04 15:45:16 Igor Eged (ancientdragon)
RE: Outsiders : Klub Rzeszow
# 4315
Hi vilu,
you don't need to think, just read rules, system handles it automatically...
You can suggest different match date by withdraw offer or discussion using messages in match date section.
i
2009-12-04 15:33:58 Michał Wileczek (krvilumisiek)
Outsiders : Klub Rzeszow
# 4314
Hi, I and several my players think, that date which you proposed was accepted without 3 day rule.
2009-11-12 20:42:28 Adam Harmasz (ohhenryy07)
Re: Congratulations OH YEAH sqad !
# 4250
Thanks!:)
2009-11-12 09:48:03 Costinas Beniamin (vlh_dragon)
Congratulations OH YEAH sqad !
# 4249
32-0 is incredibly hard to manage , were there any 32-0 in past editions ?
Anyway , congratulations ! :D
2009-09-18 17:25:54 smirnov anatolij (barbos)
RE: Change in games of Euroleague.
# 4168
Try to solve проблемму participations of clones
2009-09-14 16:57:46 Costinas Beniamin (vlh_dragon)
RE: bye...
# 4165
And nobody can make you change your mind about this ?
It's nice to see you play (even to play against you , though it's very hard). It would be a real loss ...
2009-09-14 09:38:50 Alexey Ritter (cr_Fracass)
bye...
# 4164
Hi...
I think 2008 season was last for me...
So... I want to thanks to all players of euro - it was really intresting to play with you and to oranizers:-)...
Good luck!
2009-08-25 09:34:55 Attila Demján (scattila)
RE: Change in games of Euroleague.
# 4153
Yeah, Paulie is right:) Let's force to play more live tournaments!
Besides Euroleague, we will start the Offline (e-mail) Gomoku World Championship. Details later.
2009-08-17 20:11:03 Pavel Laube (kedlub)
RE: Change in games of Euroleague.
# 4149
I must deeply disagree (and I hope I speak now for all Woodenheads) with any proposal which includes the increasing of number of rounds in Euroleague.
9 rounds are evidently good enought to decide fairly the champion, and by my opinion also good enought to give the opportunity to meet equal teams each other.
But if you don´t think so, than I consider the Attila´s proposal of ABC leagues as far more reasonable.
However, it is very nice, that you are so enthusiastic players, that you want to play also during the exam time and maybe even vacations. It is my pleisure than to invite you to join us in some live tournaments (as e.g. the past WC in Pardubice). I´m sure it can meet your needs enought:-)

Inshallah,
Kedlub
2009-07-29 13:23:51 Costinas Beniamin (vlh_dragon)
RE: Change in games of Euroleague.
# 4145
i agree with rakdar , 11 rounds or more would be better . I propose to let captains vote on this matter .
2009-07-23 18:10:51 Dariusz Białkowski (com_rakdar)
RE: Change in games of Euroleague.
# 4143
We can notice how long the break is seeing numbers.

Beginning of season 3.11.08 End 10.05.09
which means that we play 6 months and we rest 6 months.

Too much of sunbathing :)

Regards

rakdar
2009-07-20 18:52:24 Attila Demján (scattila)
RE: Change in games of Euroleague.
# 4141
Interesting idea.

I think if we would like to change on playing system in order to see more hard a nice matches we should leave swiss system and use round robin instead. I think the November-May timing is good, the break is not too long in my opinion.

We could make 3 groups like A, B, C with limited number of teams in each group. A group would be the First League, B the Second and C the Third. Teams from each group could go up and go down aswell (f.e. 1st and 2nd team of B change places with last and before last place of A group in the next season, same thing in B-C groups)

I think it's better than 11 rounds in swiss system, but to be honest, I am satisfied with the current EL system.

See ya in Pardubice.
2009-07-20 17:28:20 Dariusz Białkowski (com_rakdar)
Change in games of Euroleague.
# 4140
Few seasons of Euroleague have passed. Maybe it's worth to make some changes.

The break between seasons is way too long. Whole three months of holiday break is enough to rest from competition. There is a lot of good teams in season which don't play with each other. If the break will be shorter, there would be chance to add few rounds which ensure as some more great matches.

In this connection I suggest two small changes:

- make the holiday break shorte

- increase rounds up to eleven

A lot of players and organizers of Euroleague will take a part in coming world championships. Maybe it would be good to discuss about all this changes.

Regards

rakdar
2009-07-15 11:33:28 Adam Horvath (anakinnmoose)
RE: Re:
# 4138
Congratulations to Hungarian team and thanks to all players for very good games:)
2009-07-13 16:22:20 Attila Demján (scattila)
RE: Re:
# 4136
Yesterday Hungary played with Czech Republic a friendly match. Thanks the invitation and the organization for anakinn! Thanks for the nice games and cool atmosphere. All the bests!

Results:

Hungary - Czech Republic 36:28

I ROUND

Hungary – Czech Republic 10:6

attila - autickocz 2:0

theking - olgoj 1:1

kaosz - peroxid 2:0

ecoban - gadael 0:2



dupsky - monika 2:0

oti - anakinn 0:2

vessago - deafbat 1:1

gabor - ondik 2:0



II ROUND

Hungary - Czech Republic 9:7 (19:13)

ecoban - autickocz 1:1

attila - olgoj 1:1

theking - peroxid 2:0

kaosz - gadael 0:2



gabor - monika 1:1

dupsky - anakinn 2:0

oti - deafbat 1:1

vessago - ondik 1:1



III ROUND

Hungary – Czech Republic 10:6 (29:19)

Peking comes up, oti goes down

kaosz - autickocz 1:1

ecoban - olgoj 1:1

attila - peroxid 2:0

theking - gadael 2:0



vessago - monika 1:1

gabor - anakinn 1:1

dupsky - deafbat 2:0

peking - ondik 0:2




IV ROUND

Hungary – Czech Republic 7:9 (36:28)

theking - autickocz 2:0

kaosz - olgoj 0:2

ecoban - peroxid 1:1

attila - gadael 1:1



peking - monika 1:1

vessago - anakinn 1:1

gabor - deafbat 0:2

dupsky - ondik 1:1



Hungary A - Czech Republic A 19:13

Hungary B - Czech Republic B 17:15



Hungary (36 p):


theking 7-1

dupsky 7-1

attila 6-2

vessago 4-4

gabor 4-4

ecoban 3-5

kaosz 3-5

oti 1-3

peking 1-3




Czech Republic (28 p):


gadael 5-3

olgoj 5-3

anakinn 4-4

deafbat 4-4

ondik 4-4

monika 3-5

autickocz 2-6

peroxid 1-7



Attila
2009-05-22 08:39:05 Andrey Sviridov (cr_spartak)
RE: Re:
# 4107
Thanks for the match. We have played twice already. Now it is 1-1. I don't doubt we will meat next year. Players and observers like such matches.
2009-05-21 21:14:01 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
Re:
# 4106
Poland 21 - 43 Russia

First round

Arczi - Alex 0:2
Peaceman - Andrey 0:2
Vince - Lexx 2:0
Zukole - Mak 2:0
Angst - Barbos 1:1
Casbah - Cdb 0:2
Crosslet - Mick 1:1
Henry - Vostok 0:2

6:10

Second round Mak out, Fracass in

Arczi - Andrey 0:2
Peaceman - Lexx 2:0
Vince - Fracass 1:1
Zukole - Alex 1:1
Angst - Cdb 1:1
Casbah - Mick 1:1
Crosslet - Vostok 0:2
Henry - Barbos 0:2

6:10 ( 12:20 )

Third round Lexx out, Pycc in, Henry out, President in

Arczi - Pycc 1:1
Peaceman - Fracass 1:1
Vince - Alex 0:2
Zukole - Andrey 0:2
Angst - Mick 1:1
Casbah - Vostok 1:1
Crosslet - Barbos 0:2
President - Cdb 0:2

4:12 ( 16:32 )

Fourth round Fracass out, Mak in, Arczi out, Grajko in, Barbos out, Spartak in

Grajko - Mak 1:1
Peaceman - Alex 0:2
Vince - Andrey 1:1
Zukole - Pycc 2:0
Angst - Vostok 0:2
Casbah - Spartak 1:1
Crosslet - Cdb 0:2
President - Mick 0:2

5:11 ( 21:43)

Poland:

Zukole 5-3
Vince 4-4
Peaceman 3-5
Grajko 1-1
Arczi 1-5
Angst 3-5
Casbah 3-5
Crosslet 1-7
President 0-4
Henry 0-4

Russia :

Andrey 7-1
Alex 7-1
Fracass 2-2
Pycc 1-3
Mak 1-3
Lexx 0-4
Vostok 7-1
Cdb 7-1
Barbos 5-1
Mick 5-3
Spartak 1-1

Thx for match !
2009-05-20 10:13:34 Andrey Sviridov (cr_spartak)
RE: Russia - Poland
# 4105
Piotr, that is good! See you at time.
2009-05-19 23:24:46 Piotr Małowiejski (dt_angst)
RE: Russia - Poland
# 4104
Andrey,

We have some problems with our team, however I decided that we will play, as I don't want to postpone our match for the 2nd time.

I propose to play in psgrip room.

Kind regards,

Angst
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