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2019-04-08 03:18:33 Zoltán László (scavenger)
RE: IS - WTTS walkover
# 7131
Well, I could have informed you about the time changing myself, but unfortunately, to my message starting with "Hi!" nothing but a counter-offer was the answer, so I could have only replied to myself with it, which sounds silly. The precise definition is totally irrelevant, I'm sure you were aware of it, and we left because we are not clowns to wait for one hour, plus stay there +1hr, when you did not attend on purpose. You want to convince me that it was a misunderstanding because russians do not know about CEST, but as I've stated before, I do not believe it, nor do my teammates.
2019-04-08 02:54:07 Ilya Katsev (bromozel)
RE: IS - WTTS walkover
# 7130
To be honest I personally not sure about the precise definition of CEST. For example, I don't know either it doesn't exist at winter or it coincides with CET in winter? Some years ago we also had summer time in Russia but not now. And I know that in Europe this shift also will be canceled in the next years. So yes, we only know that there is summer and winter times in Europe and (probably) they still have difference equal to one hour. But I'm pretty sure that almost nobody knows the name CEST. I know it only because of EL and the fact that we were late on our match 5 years ago, you can read about it lower in this topic.

I don't know how Humans-2015 started their match at CEST time, may be they discussed it with their opponent when they choose the date? I think that it is quite polite to inform your opponents from Russia that your time is changing during this round. We didn't know about it, probably I can google it, but I didn't. In the beginning of the round the time difference was 2 hours between Russia and Europe and we planned to play in admin date, as in previous rounds, at 21:00 by Moscow time.

You decided to leave but you know that we are going in according with the rules. You supposed that we made it (to come at 21:00 in Moscow time) on purpose, but you are wrong, we just did not know that now time is different. But! We know now, that you leaved on purpose, trying to get one point without playing. And this is definitely far from fair play so I see nothing unfair when you will get zero points here.
2019-04-08 02:36:37 Zoltán László (scavenger)
RE: IS - WTTS walkover
# 7129
Ilya, you are a respected member of the gomoku community, matter of fact you are the current chairman of the Gomoku Committee and you really want to tell me that nobody knows about CET - CEST in Russia? How come that Humans-2015 and Thunderstorm both attended the match at the agreed date? I don't believe you, and I think this is simply ridiculous. This is morally at least quiestonable, also. Plus, this is unworthy of EL, this is far not the best way to "win" a match, especially when you have such players in your team. The winner of the match is INNERSTRENGTH.
2019-04-08 02:18:09 Ilya Katsev (bromozel)
RE: IS - WTTS walkover
# 7128
In Russia nobody knows about CEST.
And also in EL rules nothing written about CEST.
Moreover, in EL rules even CET appeared only couple of years ago, before it was some "Kurnik time". So nothing about "years".

> In my personal opinion it was not a quite noble act, but anyways, the date was 19:00 and you did not attend the match, thus we won by walkover.

But the opinion of our rules is different and we won this match.
2019-04-08 02:07:09 Zoltán László (scavenger)
RE: IS - WTTS walkover
# 7127
The fact that you did this on purpose, however, is not quite irrelevant.
You play EL for years, you know about CET - CEST, everyone knows about it, actually. Matter of fact, the rule that all matches must be arranged in CET is dead - both EL tradition and current practice ignore it straight; all teams except WTTS had accepted it and played their matches in this round, you can check it. According to you, all matches were played one hour earlier in this round, (and will be played in next rounds as well, I bet) so everyone violated this rule? Nah, we all know about CET and CEST, including you and I'm pretty sure that you did what you did on purpose, yet I just don't know what the actual goal could have been, since we are 2.5 points ahead. In my personal opinion it was not a quite noble act, but anyways, the date was 19:00 and you did not attend the match, thus we won by walkover.
2019-04-08 01:30:58 Ilya Katsev (bromozel)
RE: IS - WTTS walkover
# 7126
Zoli, it is irrelevant. You have CEST, we have russian time zone, so what?
Should we use Moscow time instead of CES? I think that no. Rules are rules and rules says that the admin date is 19:00 CES, so this is +:- for us.
2019-04-08 00:47:09 Zoltán László (scavenger)
RE: IS - WTTS walkover
# 7125
The admin date was 19:00, we waited 30 minutes for you to come, it is CEST in almost all European countries, including Hungary, Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia and so on. You came at 20:00 and you claim walkover. I am pretty sure you exactly knew that we have CEST, you posted here one day before the match that we play at 19:00 CET - nobody reads this forum almost, especially not few hours before the match. You declined all offers of mine, thus 19:00 admin date remained, though the site indicated 10:00. It all looks like you did everything on purpose and try to achieve the match point this way. I'm very sorry about it and also sorry to miss such a match, but the admin date was 19:00 and only our team attended the match, thus we won by walkover.
2019-04-07 21:46:06 Ilya Katsev (bromozel)
RE: IS - WTTS walkover
# 7124
I mean 19:00 CET
2019-04-07 21:45:25 Ilya Katsev (bromozel)
RE: IS - WTTS walkover
# 7123
Sorry, but the situation is opposite. We came at 19:00 and you did not, so the result is +:- for us.
2019-04-07 20:29 Zoltán László (scavenger)
IS - WTTS walkover
# 7122
WTTS have unfortunately not arrived till 19:20, thus it is +:- for IS.
2019-02-02 16:22:10 Alexey Mikhaylov (off_minor)
RE: "Humans-2015" - "Piece of cake." - 1:0
# 7112
We're sorry, friends, but it's impossible. We're working people, family people, et cetera. We are gathered here today, postponed their business, but the play was not with anyone.
It was your day, your time. Your captain's proposal.
2019-02-02 14:29:52 Jakub Roubíček (raspberrycake)
RE: "Humans-2015" - "Piece of cake." - 1:0
# 7111
We are sorry very much.
We are total forget that have today a match.
Please, will you have ,,free time" tomorrow?
Can you else play match tomorrow?

Please, exuse us, ours miss captain is studying to the degree examinations and total forget that today we have a match.

Thank you for a reply

Jakub Roubíček, raspberry_Cake
2019-02-02 13:59:55 Pavlína Brdková (czpaya)
RE: "Humans-2015" - "Piece of cake." - 1:0
# 7110
Yep, sorry for that, we forgot about the match. Congrats!
2019-02-02 13:34:36 Alexey Mikhaylov (off_minor)
"Humans-2015" - "Piece of cake." - 1:0
# 7109
The team Piece of cake. did not come to the match. The team Humans-2015 came in full number.

Humans-2015 - Piece of cake. - 1:0 (technical loss).
2019-02-02 13:31:18 Alexey Mikhaylov (off_minor)
"Humans-2015" - "Piece of cake." - 1:0
# 7108
The team "Piece of cake." did not come to the match. The team "Humans-2015" came in full number. "Humans-2015" - "Piece of cake." - 1:0 (technical loss).
2018-06-17 17:37:50 Alexey Mikhaylov (off_minor)
Humans-2015 + : - Czech Payback C
# 7103
The team Czech Payback C hasn't come to a match. Any player.
Technical lost.
Humans-2015 + : - Czech Payback C
2018-06-17 17:32:57 Alexey Mikhaylov (off_minor)
"Humans-2015" + : - "Czech Payback C"
# 7102
The team "Czech Payback C" hasn't come to a match. Any player.
Technical lost.
"Humans-2015" + : - "Czech Payback C"
2018-06-04 07:50:51 Peter Jonsson (peterjo)
Luffarna - No Name
# 7101
Yesterday 3 June 19 00 our opponents could only find two players and gave walk over.

Result: Luffarna + - No Name -

Peter Jonsson Captain Luffarna
2018-06-04 06:02:25 Martin Muzika (paytez)
Piece of cake - Czech Payback C
# 7100
We have agreed to play on 3.6.2018 19:00.

Unfortunately, opponent was not able to find enough players. For this reason, they did not come.

result: Piece of cake - Czech Payback C +-
Martin Muzika Captain Piece of cake
2017-03-26 20:27:43 Peter Jonsson (peterjo)
Luffarna - megalomani
# 7083
Megalomani team did not show up at 20 00 26 March,
result: Luffarna - Megalomani +-
Peer Jonsson Captain Luffarna
2017-02-19 20:26:47 Peter Jonsson (peterjo)
Walk over
# 7056
Best of AG did not show up on Sunday Feb 19 at 20 00.

Result: Luffarna - Best of AG + -

Peter Jonsson, Captain luffarna
2017-01-15 16:29:11 Tatiana Volkova (1dalida1)
Thunderstorm vs Best of AG + -
# 7027
Thunderstorm vs Best of AG + -
2017-01-15 16:26:57 Tatiana Volkova (1dalida1)
the result of the game Thunder vs Best
# 7026
The team Best of AG didn't appear at the agreed time, we were waiting for it for 20 min
2016-12-18 15:37:58 Igor Eged (ancientdragon)
Outsiders : Luffarna +-
# 7014
Only captain of the opposing team was present, we were with 4 players.
2016-12-17 10:24:27 Ilya Katsev (bromozel)
WayToTheSun : Megalomani
# 7013
We have waited 20 minutes but there was no opponents, so I think that this is +:-
2016-12-11 17:48:51 Tatiana Volkova (1dalida1)
the result of the games Thunder vs Dark
# 7012
The result of the games Thunderstorm vs Dark team 5 to 27, in the 4th round in the first game bugry won, how can we change the result, if it's proved already?
2016-04-17 18:26:59 Alex Lisyutin (bugry75)
NoToCo - Thunderstorm
# 7009
Точнее ждали 15 мин. Потом Володя Синицын(он был один от команды соперников) согласился на тех. поражение
2016-04-17 18:24:32 Alex Lisyutin (bugry75)
NoToCo - Thunderstorm
# 7008
NoToCo - Thunderstorm -:+
We were waiting 30 minutes, but our opponent (NoToCo) doesn't appear in the agreed time
2016-02-21 19:24:24 Ilya Katsev (bromozel)
WayToTheSun - No To Co +:-
# 6998
There was only one opponent at the match time. The second one (the captain) came 10 minutes later and informed me that they have no players today and cannot play. We had 4 players at this moment and I think that this situation means +:-
2016-02-03 09:29:35 Alexey Mikhaylov (off_minor)
RE: No name - Humans-2015 (- / +)
# 6995
Hello, Igor. I thank committee of Euroleague for the positive decision on match-result of my team in the 4th round. Misunderstanding is deleted. Excuse me for the excessive emotions.
Best regards, Alexey.
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